After reading over what you have said I can conclude that most of these statements are not for the benefit of the community but are rather personal bias / personal gain.
For your first statement regarding keep inventory I actually agree with you that it needs to be turned off. The reason that Abyss attracts zero players is because the arenas are in the wrong places, and should be switched or the keep inventory arena should be removed alltogether. It makes no sense to put a non keep inventory PVP arena in a completely different realm when we already have icehaven which had major traffic when there was a holy scroll based PVP arena at spawn.
For your second claim, people using invisibility can be annoying however just because its annoying doesn't mean we should have to change anything about their behavior. Using invisibility potions to gain an advantage in PVP whether thats sneaking up on somebody or stealing loot (its keepinv anyway) serves no reason to disable the mechanic completely because they're doing nothing against the rules and are playing the game how they enjoy and may not agree with how you PVP.
I have no statement regarding Elytra PVP
Regarding AByss it should be in spawn.
Regarding bringing back 1.16 PVP I can conclude that this entire paragraph was a terrible take. 1.8 PVP takes several advanced skill sets whether that is W, S, A, or D tapping, hit selecting, shift tapping, movement, and certain click patterns that you would understand if you took the time to learn how to PVP 1.8 style rather than complaining about it. Manacube has used 1.8 style of PVP for years besides that one season, and it was changed because it brought basically no traffic. 1.8 PVP is easily accessible for all people who want to PVP while 1.16 is more strategy based and better for a different gamemode than a PVE arena which is used in isles and /warp pvp. 1.16 PVP would simply ruin the traffic of the PVP side of manacube completely.
For your sixth statement I dont care about cosmetics whatsoever.
For your seventh statement, buffing lucille would be absolutely terrible for the server. The original way the Lucille operated was extremely annoying and served as a massive disadvantage for anyone who didnt have a lucille to begin with. Players who had a lucille with the original effects were guaranteed to win the battle before it even started vs someone who wasnt using one. The lucille was nerfed because of how bad it was to fight against in PVP and now its much more easy to counter in PVP. Buffing it would simply just make PVP terrible like it was before, and even a little buff would completely disrupt how PVP works right now, which doesnt even need to be changed.
Regarding popsicle, the cooldown for popsicle is perfect for the current PVP, and making it longer would make no sense because its not even that OP of an item. Just because you dont like predicting where theyre going to go or dont want to own a popsicle of your own doesnt mean they should nerf it because YOU dont agree with it. This was a obviously player based / biased take.
I dont care about Medusa or Mace
Finally, if you truely believe PVP is based off who pops their totem first then you clearly arent a real PVPer. Getting your totem popped first has no effect on the battle its just as simple as reappying and healing yourself. Ive been popped first several times and ended up winning the fight because Totems are basically just a failsafe for when you arent making the correct decisions in a 1v1 or against several players (at my level atleast). You dont even need totems in todays PVP since its keep inventory anyways.
Concluding these claims, most of them were extremely biased and were only stated because you dont agree with them or dont possess the high enough skill level to counter or use the items / mechanics accordingly, therefor you want them to be changed so you can more easily defeat someone who is better than you at the game.
Regarding your statements regarding PVP, I like how you discuss the matter in a completely different way than EndTheLag does (basied vs non biased) and are basing it off experience rather than what benefits you. I dont really disagree with anything you said because you are essentially just discussing what's going on in todays PVP and expressing community concerns, and arent really encouraging change because none is needed. +1
Most of your statements pretty acceptable in my opinion except regarding autoclicking. Autoclicking isnt what makes 1.8 pvp bad, its the people who dont take the time to learn how to click fast and just accuse others of autoclicking that make the type of pvp less enjoyable. It took me a few months from being only able to click 7cps to up to 20cps, and I've personally been accused multiple times of autoclicking due to me taking the time to learn how to PVP 1.8 style.
For my own personal opinions on the current state of PVP I will go over some problems that the community have and will offer a simple solution regarding them.
Problem:
Invisible players being annoying, medusa hair + mace being too OP, lucille needing a buff, popsicle needing a nerf
Solution:
The server shouldnt need to change because you arent able to handle fighting someone with better items. PVP is completely fine how it is besides Keep Inventory and shouldnt need to change because you dont possess the needed skillset to fight people with better items than you.
Basically what im saying is instead of complaining about someone who has better items than you grind the game to achieve said items, or take the time to get better at pvp so you dont need to complain about being bad at pvp.
For your first statement regarding keep inventory I actually agree with you that it needs to be turned off. The reason that Abyss attracts zero players is because the arenas are in the wrong places, and should be switched or the keep inventory arena should be removed alltogether. It makes no sense to put a non keep inventory PVP arena in a completely different realm when we already have icehaven which had major traffic when there was a holy scroll based PVP arena at spawn.
For your second claim, people using invisibility can be annoying however just because its annoying doesn't mean we should have to change anything about their behavior. Using invisibility potions to gain an advantage in PVP whether thats sneaking up on somebody or stealing loot (its keepinv anyway) serves no reason to disable the mechanic completely because they're doing nothing against the rules and are playing the game how they enjoy and may not agree with how you PVP.
I have no statement regarding Elytra PVP
Regarding AByss it should be in spawn.
Regarding bringing back 1.16 PVP I can conclude that this entire paragraph was a terrible take. 1.8 PVP takes several advanced skill sets whether that is W, S, A, or D tapping, hit selecting, shift tapping, movement, and certain click patterns that you would understand if you took the time to learn how to PVP 1.8 style rather than complaining about it. Manacube has used 1.8 style of PVP for years besides that one season, and it was changed because it brought basically no traffic. 1.8 PVP is easily accessible for all people who want to PVP while 1.16 is more strategy based and better for a different gamemode than a PVE arena which is used in isles and /warp pvp. 1.16 PVP would simply ruin the traffic of the PVP side of manacube completely.
For your sixth statement I dont care about cosmetics whatsoever.
For your seventh statement, buffing lucille would be absolutely terrible for the server. The original way the Lucille operated was extremely annoying and served as a massive disadvantage for anyone who didnt have a lucille to begin with. Players who had a lucille with the original effects were guaranteed to win the battle before it even started vs someone who wasnt using one. The lucille was nerfed because of how bad it was to fight against in PVP and now its much more easy to counter in PVP. Buffing it would simply just make PVP terrible like it was before, and even a little buff would completely disrupt how PVP works right now, which doesnt even need to be changed.
Regarding popsicle, the cooldown for popsicle is perfect for the current PVP, and making it longer would make no sense because its not even that OP of an item. Just because you dont like predicting where theyre going to go or dont want to own a popsicle of your own doesnt mean they should nerf it because YOU dont agree with it. This was a obviously player based / biased take.
I dont care about Medusa or Mace
Finally, if you truely believe PVP is based off who pops their totem first then you clearly arent a real PVPer. Getting your totem popped first has no effect on the battle its just as simple as reappying and healing yourself. Ive been popped first several times and ended up winning the fight because Totems are basically just a failsafe for when you arent making the correct decisions in a 1v1 or against several players (at my level atleast). You dont even need totems in todays PVP since its keep inventory anyways.
Concluding these claims, most of them were extremely biased and were only stated because you dont agree with them or dont possess the high enough skill level to counter or use the items / mechanics accordingly, therefor you want them to be changed so you can more easily defeat someone who is better than you at the game.
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Regarding your statements regarding PVP, I like how you discuss the matter in a completely different way than EndTheLag does (basied vs non biased) and are basing it off experience rather than what benefits you. I dont really disagree with anything you said because you are essentially just discussing what's going on in todays PVP and expressing community concerns, and arent really encouraging change because none is needed. +1
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Most of your statements pretty acceptable in my opinion except regarding autoclicking. Autoclicking isnt what makes 1.8 pvp bad, its the people who dont take the time to learn how to click fast and just accuse others of autoclicking that make the type of pvp less enjoyable. It took me a few months from being only able to click 7cps to up to 20cps, and I've personally been accused multiple times of autoclicking due to me taking the time to learn how to PVP 1.8 style.
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For my own personal opinions on the current state of PVP I will go over some problems that the community have and will offer a simple solution regarding them.
Problem:
Invisible players being annoying, medusa hair + mace being too OP, lucille needing a buff, popsicle needing a nerf
Solution:
The server shouldnt need to change because you arent able to handle fighting someone with better items. PVP is completely fine how it is besides Keep Inventory and shouldnt need to change because you dont possess the needed skillset to fight people with better items than you.
Basically what im saying is instead of complaining about someone who has better items than you grind the game to achieve said items, or take the time to get better at pvp so you dont need to complain about being bad at pvp.
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