Warnings given by mods should appear across your screen exactly like the "discord" pop up does. This ensures you do no miss warnings for any of the following examples: You aren't reading chat, you are building, you are concentrating on gameplay, a scrambler pushes the warning off screen, chat is typing too fast. Warning across the screen means people don't get muted for missing warnings when they would've happily complied with mods if they saw the warning.
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plus the longest I have been muted was for 2 hours so I don't want it to be more so I have learned in that way
However using my own case as an example here. I had a nickname that I had been using for 2 days so I didn't think I was breaking any rules as no mods had mentioned it however I missed a warning in chat on the 3rd day and was muted for it. I would've happily changed my name but the warning was lost to chat and I wasn't aware that I was breaking any rules
Don't get me wrong; I'm fine with this suggestion, I'm really not opposed to it. But it is not the staff's fault that you didn't see your warning, and this explanation is somewhat putting that blame on the staff. A warning, as Tiger said as well, isn't that small. Staff always give a verbal warning as well for chat-related issues, so I personally believe there is plenty of warning before a mute.
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Usually, I would disagree with the logic of "just don't break the rules..." but the thing is staff don't use ./warn or ./mute unless they absolutely have to. I've usually seen a mod verbally warn a player. Anytime I've ever been ./warned it was AFTER being asked to stop doing whatever I was doing. Also, if you "tab out" you wouldn't even see it flash across your screen. What might be nice though is a warnings tab on the bans site, I know one of dacon's other servers has a warnings tab on the ban site. I want to say that most of the rules are common sense... but seeing as I myself have an extensive punishment history I'll leave that to people who don't have any punishments.
Edit: I also agree with the things wings said- and I have noticed how staff sometimes will not warn a player for something, but then that same said player would get in trouble for whatever they were doing... I had this happen with one of the clans I was in on aether. We were told that the name of our clan wasn't appropriate and it would have to be changed, but none of the other olympus staff had mentioned anything previously. Luckily, no one got punished... but I'd still say it's an example of this "miscommunication." I know the staff are all human and will interpret the rules slightly differently, but it shouldn't impact how they handle punishments, staff should all be on the same page to avoid these kinds of issues arising. I see this happen especially with telling the difference between hate speech and disrespect, one mod might think something is hate speech while another thinks it's simply rude/disrespectful. I can understand how it's really frustrating for everyone, but then again the easy thing to say is "just don't say anything that COULD be rude or offensive..." Quite honestly, I don't think that's really solving the issue either. Like I said earlier, all the staff should be on the same page, and the community should also be aware of what IS and ISN'T appropriate. If we do this, I'm sure it would mitigate the number of misunderstandings that occur and hopefully mean fewer mutes that could have easily been avoided with some proper communication between both parties.
Edit: I also agree with the things wings said- and I have noticed how staff sometimes will not warn a player for something, but then that same said player would get in trouble for whatever they were doing... I had this happen with one of the clans I was in on aether. We were told that the name of our clan wasn't appropriate and it would have to be changed, but none of the other olympus staff had mentioned anything previously. Luckily, no one got punished... but I'd still say it's an example of this "miscommunication." I know the staff are all human and will interpret the rules slightly differently, but it shouldn't impact how they handle punishments, staff should all be on the same page to avoid these kinds of issues arising. I see this happen especially with telling the difference between hate speech and disrespect, one mod might think something is hate speech while another thinks it's simply rude/disrespectful. I can understand how it's really frustrating for everyone, but then again the easy thing to say is "just don't say anything that COULD be rude or offensive..." Quite honestly, I don't think that's really solving the issue either. Like I said earlier, all the staff should be on the same page, and the community should also be aware of what IS and ISN'T appropriate. If we do this, I'm sure it would mitigate the number of misunderstandings that occur and hopefully mean fewer mutes that could have easily been avoided with some proper communication between both parties.
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Could you elaborate on this a little bit, please? I'm not sure I understand what you mean. Where on the screen would the warn message be? (You say across, does this mean off of the chat box and instead in the middle of the "playing screen" (I don't know how to word it, but the part where you see blocks)) How long would it last? Would it go away automatically or through some action by the player? (A command, etc.)
Hello, I just wanted to address this quickly. All staff follow the same "list" of muteable offenses. However, a lot of situations take experience to learn, and so newer staff might punish for something that more experienced staff would know not to punish for, or vice versa. This can lead to a disparity in punishments - I know I have made multiple mistakes, and I'm sure everyone else on the team has, as well, at one time or another.
Is this fair to players? Well, not really, but it is also hard to avoid as staff. It's hard to understand all the rules and punishments perfectly right off the bat, and even after months or years, sometimes we make a judgement others would consider incorrect for the situation. For more drastic punishments, an appeal will fix this, and if considered false, the punishment will be removed from the player's record completely.
We generally try to minimize this difference in punishments, however it cannot be fully eliminated.
Hello, I just wanted to address this quickly. All staff follow the same "list" of muteable offenses. However, a lot of situations take experience to learn, and so newer staff might punish for something that more experienced staff would know not to punish for, or vice versa. This can lead to a disparity in punishments - I know I have made multiple mistakes, and I'm sure everyone else on the team has, as well, at one time or another.
Is this fair to players? Well, not really, but it is also hard to avoid as staff. It's hard to understand all the rules and punishments perfectly right off the bat, and even after months or years, sometimes we make a judgement others would consider incorrect for the situation. For more drastic punishments, an appeal will fix this, and if considered false, the punishment will be removed from the player's record completely.
We generally try to minimize this difference in punishments, however it cannot be fully eliminated.
My suggestion is that it appears exactly the same as the "join discord " pop up or the " use pack manacube" pop up. Something that pops up in the middle of your screen. The warning wouldn't last very long, I would suggest 2-3 seconds and would fade out automatically. In terms of what it should say I think " You have been warned for (reason) and then something along the lines of please change this or please be appropriate or risk being muted.