Manapond and prestiging change

[studio_c]

Me and some others all agree that Mana pond is way to competitive now. It's deterring people from prestiging because it is simply too hard to get any catchs when there are people there with over 1k monthly event score. its not fun for older players either. I think the prestige requirement for the manapond should be changed to something else. (IMO Mana monsters killed). And before anyone just says "You're just too bad," the people who say that are the 3 people who sweat the pond day and night.

 

[NEJIRE HADO]

+1

 

[bloubird]

+1

I think replacing it with another requirement that is challenging, but not a competition with other players, would be best.

 

[Spogger]

Replace with (non-LPS) player kills - it will encourage PvP.

 

[studio_c]

Replace with (non-LPS) player kills - it will encourage PvP.

I agree with that but i also feel like it will drive new players away from Earth because someone who has really good stuff can just go hunting players with just barely 72h and get a lot of stuff from it

 

[NEJIRE HADO]

I feel it should be boss kills

 

[Spogger]

I agree with that but i also feel like it will drive new players away from Earth because someone who has really good stuff can just go hunting players with just barely 72h and get a lot of stuff from it

Maybe make it include LPS kills but increase the amount needed then?

Orrr make it siege kills since that means that noobs won't lose stuff and it will still encourage pvp and war.

 

[Blockbuster69]

I have started playing manacube about 6 weeks ago and I am already at 350+ mana pond catches without Springs III. Thats far beyond what you need for prestiging and the days where I was a godlike aimer are long ago. If I in my old days can make it with a handicap on my hands so can you. Pond will not be your bottleneck in late game prestiges anymore and is by far the easiest one to accomplish besides ores.

 

[NEJIRE HADO]

I have started playing manacube about 6 weeks ago and I am already at 350+ mana pond catches without Springs III. Thats far beyond what you need for prestiging and the days where I was a godlike aimer are long ago. If I in my old days can make it with a handicap on my hands so can you. Pond will not be your bottleneck in late game prestiges anymore and is by far the easiest one to accomplish besides ores.

Mhm mhm OK do that when whiteslmao and pete3e are there you'll catch probably 3 things if your average without springs if pro without I'll estimate 10 average with springs about 6 if pro ima go with 20-35 as those are my numbers
New players DO NOT have access to springs as ppl sell it at moderately high prices and new players would be new to pond so they wouldn't have any skill at it

 

[studio_c]

Pond will not be your bottleneck in late game prestiges anymore and is by far the easiest one to accomplish besides ores.

i do agree that once you get a lot it will not be hard in the late game but if you keep it really hard for the early game where players are just joining then it will deter new players from earth

 

[Blockbuster69]

Mhm mhm OK do that when whiteslmao and pete3e are there you'll catch probably 3 things if your average without springs if pro without I'll estimate 10 average with springs about 6 if pro ima go with 20-35 as those are my numbers
New players DO NOT have access to springs as ppl sell it at moderately high prices and new players would be new to pond so they wouldn't have any skill at it

Thats why pond size has been increased, even with three hard hitters there is a spot on the left and right you cant reach. If youre not a pond pro, don't stand in the middle easy as that. Besides that catching three things means youre gonna be at over 1000 catches in a year if you go daily or at over 300 catches in 3 months. Most players will not even be close to the amount of mobs. skill points or crops you need as equivalent for 300 pond catches after 3 months. I'm now on Prestige 6 to 7 and I need 149 pond catches which is already 3600 skill levels. If you boil that down into your 3 catches per pond that is 49 days to reach prestige 7 on catches with a system meant to last for a year where no one goes above 9. On top of that you can go to pond more than once per day if you wish to prestige faster or even go durring side times for US where theres like 4-5 players on the pond. I don't think the expectation should be that you arrive as a new player and immediatly prestige first day.

i do agree that once you get a lot it will not be hard in the late game but if you keep it really hard for the early game where players are just joining then it will deter new players from earth

Swapping pond catches with something like mana monsters from the poll will essentially be a move against the core player base because it's us who actually really prestige and we have to do the extra work. If youre new on the other side and you like earth and want to prestige you will find a way to catch more on pond. It's not rocket science, it's pond.

 

[NEJIRE HADO]

Thats why pond size has been increased, even with three hard hitters there is a spot on the left and right you cant reach. If youre not a pond pro, don't stand in the middle easy as that. Besides that catching three things means youre gonna be at over 1000 catches in a year if you go daily or at over 300 catches in 3 months. Most players will not even be close to the amount of mobs. skill points or crops you need as equivalent for 300 pond catches after 3 months. I'm now on Prestige 6 to 7 and I need 149 pond catches which is already 3600 skill levels. If you boil that down into your 3 catches per pond that is 49 days to reach prestige 7 on catches with a system meant to last for a year where no one goes above 9. On top of that you can go to pond more than once per day if you wish to prestige faster or even go durring side times for US where theres like 4-5 players on the pond. I don't think the expectation should be that you arrive as a new player and immediatly prestige first day.



Swapping pond catches with something like mana monsters from the poll will essentially be a move against the core player base because it's us who actually really prestige and we have to do the extra work. If youre new on the other side and you like earth and want to prestige you will find a way to catch more on pond. It's not rocket science, it's pond.

Ok but pete3e stands one side whitelmao stands the other oh no the issues back also yes people do go above 9

 

[Blockbuster69]

Ok but pete3e stands one side whitelmao stands the other oh no the issues back also yes people do go above 9

No because you cant reach the shorter sides of the pond if you stand in the middle of the long sides. You will have access to less drops that is true but if you can't mess with people that are good on pond you also shouldn't do it and try to avoid them and even if people go above 9 Prestige you need about 300 hours of killing mobs for 9 to 10 that is more than enough time to get twice the required amount of pond.

 

[NEJIRE HADO]

No because you cant reach the shorter sides of the pond if you stand in the middle of the long sides. You will have access to less drops that is true but if you can't mess with people that are good on pond you also shouldn't do it and try to avoid them and even if people go above 9 Prestige you need about 300 hours of killing mobs for 9 to 10 that is more than enough time to get twice the required amount of pond.

No im fairly good at pond u stand centre om either end u can reach stuff infront, left and.right the only area u cant is opposite quit your bs and do some actual research

 

[Blockbuster69]

Damn, you handle someone elses opinion quite mature. You will still have disadvantage when you try to hit corner stuff from mid when you go vs someone on mid. I stand corners once in a while and I never have troubles against Pete or Whites (actual empirical research) so maybe its just a skill issue?

 

[NEJIRE HADO]

Damn, you handle someone elses opinion quite mature. You will still have disadvantage when you try to hit corner stuff from mid when you go vs someone on mid. I stand corners once in a while and I never have troubles against Pete or Whites (actual empirical research) so maybe its just a skill issue?

No i dont have issue once i need prestige i inly go to pond once or twice to have rnough usually once maybe its time for reform?(arent u the one that supposedly built a swastika?)

 

[Blockbuster69]

No i dont have issue once i need prestige i inly go to pond once or twice to have rnough usually once maybe its time for reform?(arent u the one that supposedly built a swastika?)

It just did get a reform with bigger size + you just confirmed why it does not need another reform if someone can do it in one or two goes, besides what's the kick you get ouf downvoting every answer I make?

 

[NEJIRE HADO]

It just did get a reform with bigger size + you just confirmed why it does not need another reform if someone can do it in one or two goes, besides what's the kick you get ouf downvoting every answer I make?

No i got enough when it wasnt big i have 0 ISSUES with catching items i always been decent at it im more thinking of players who cant and how it is unfair for them

 

[Wedosnipes]

Boss kills or mana mob kills would be better for prestiging

 

[HeuristicsInc]

I feel like boss kills would work best because unlike mana monsters, they don’t break sometimes and are consistent. They always come at the same time and anyone can be a part of them. It would allow for players to more easily plan for prestige instead of just hoping for the best.