My thoughts of ManaPvP season 11

[Cibr]

Tenebrous probably has a video explaining it

 

[Rektah]

Of course you have to measure it, but the way it seems to be currently implemented is falsing by a big margin.
There are multiple ways to minimize the inaccuracy, but im not giving the information away to a competing server since it would not benefit me.

Well the anticheat hasnt had many falsebans. Kuqn's ban was unique and I dont know what triggered and it hasnt happened to anyone else it but I honestly believe its a misunderstanding.

 

[Skydeum]

Tenebrous probably has a video explaining it

That video inquestion only goes into basics how anticheats have to mitigate ping and inaccuracy.

 

[XzamzuaX]

Another classic case of a ban-evading hacker bashing the anticheat

Based on your comments it seems you literally have 0 knowledge on anything server related

bro dacon liston you are shit ur server is shit aleksi is better

 

[CullanP]

Of course you have to measure it, but the way it seems to be currently implemented is falsing by a big margin.
There are multiple ways to minimize the inaccuracy, but im not giving the information away to a competing server since it would not benefit me.

And how can you prove ours has inaccuracies without actually seeing it, you can't. Similar to what you're saying, I can't prove whether or not you actually have prior experience or are just making it up. Hence why I said in my previous posts that the only thing that will prove our anti-cheat has a good track record is through time and with more bans. If the only thing you can say is the anti-cheat is bad because of a single ban, that doesn't really make your point look good, you need multiple sources to back up said claim. Hence why I'll end this by saying if you want to say the anti-cheat is bad, be my guest, I will keep working on it and improving it over time. I appreciate any and all feedback, rather it be negative or good. It only makes me want to improve it that much more and prove this notion that it's bad from you false.

 

[XzamzuaX]

And how can you prove ours has inaccuracies without actually seeing it, you can't. Similar to what you're saying, I can't prove whether or not you actually have prior experience or are just making it up. Hence why I said in my previous posts that the only thing that will prove our anti-cheat has a good track record is through time and with more bans. If the only thing you can say is the anti-cheat is bad because of a single ban, that doesn't really make your point look good, you need multiple sources to back up said claim. Hence why I'll end this by saying if you want to say the anti-cheat is bad, be my guest, I will keep working on it and improving it over time. I appreciate any and all feedback, rather it be negative or good. It only makes me want to improve it that much more and prove this notion that it's bad from you false.

fuck u it falsebans everybody

 

[Skydeum]

And how can you prove ours has inaccuracies without actually seeing it, you can't. Similar to what you're saying, I can't prove whether or not you actually have prior experience or are just making it up. Hence why I said in my previous posts that the only thing that will prove our anti-cheat has a good track record is through time and with more bans. If the only thing you can say is the anti-cheat is bad because of a single ban, that doesn't really make your point look good, you need multiple sources to back up said claim. Hence why I'll end this by saying if you want to say the anti-cheat is bad, be my guest, I will keep working on it and improving it over time. I appreciate any and all feedback, rather it be negative or good. It only makes me want to improve it that much more and prove this notion that it's bad from you false.

I see it from the fact that one of the staff members said kuqn was banned for 5.5blocks of reach. You clearly seem to ignore the fact that the ac falses. It would not make any sense for someone to cheat with that big of an advantage and not to expect getting instabanned.

EDIT:
And infact it is definitely not the only false ban that is has gotten so far. Just think about it if the staff says that their anticheat is the best and refuse to see the flaws in it would raise the bar for everyone to make ban appeals since the staff would just decline it anyway.

 

[CullanP]

I see it from the fact that one of the staff members said kuqn was banned for 5.5blocks of reach. You clearly seem to ignore the fact that the ac falses. It would not make any sense for someone to cheat with that big of an advantage and not to expect getting instabanned.

I'll be waiting for where the other false bans are. I have yet to see any in real circumstances

Edit: The only "false bans" so far were not under normal circumstances (Every combat ban so far has been accurate) and only happened to multiple people as they were testing. We also did unban them, so this is also invalid.

 

[Skydeum]

I'll be waiting for where the other false bans are. I have yet to see any in real circumstances

How did ntc and goatmop get banned by the anticheat and unbanned by staff later on?

 

[CullanP]

How did ntc and goatmop get banned by the anticheat and unbanned by staff later on?

Was not in combat nor under regular circumstances, nor was it any of our main checks, so this doesn't really have any validity. NTC said it himself in another post

 

[Cibr]

Every Anticheat will false ban unless it’s shit. Even MMC and lunar have false bans

 

[Skydeum]

Was not in combat nor under regular circumstances, nor was it any of our main checks, so this doesn't really have any validity. NTC said it himself in another post

you are clearly just deflecting the issue that it is not your responsibility as you don't define the normal circumstances because it does not really declare what do you mean by that it could mean a variety of things.

And if you are just making and testing a new check out you just dont punish for it and only make it flag on yourself and the other testers.

 

[CullanP]

you are clearly just deflecting the issue that it is not your responsibility as you don't define the normal circumstances because it does not really declare what do you mean by that it could mean a variety of things.

And if you are just making and testing a new check out you just dont punish for it and only make it flag on yourself and the other testers.

Nowhere did I say it was a new check, by main check I'm referring to checks that typically have the most bans accompanied with them. What you said also makes no sense, of course it is my responsibility as I made the anti-cheat, however everything I have said is true and I will stick to it. The fact you can't mention anything else you said previously only proves this fact. If none of our checks have false banned in actual combat so far, then how is what you're saying true in any sense. This only started due to the fact kuqn got banned in COMBAT. Prove this fact wrong and I'll believe you

 

[Rektah]

Nowhere did I say it was a new check, by main check I'm referring to checks that typically have the most bans accompanied with them. What you said also makes no sense, of course it is my responsibility as I made the anti-cheat, however everything I have said is true and I will stick to it. The fact you can't mention anything else you said previously only proves this fact. If none of our checks have false banned in actual combat so far, then how is what you're saying true in any sense. This only started due to the fact kuqn got banned in COMBAT. Prove this fact wrong and I'll believe you

we can explain it if you give us timestamps. I don't even know any clients that inject into lunar client that have misplace

 

[Rektah]

we can explain it if you give us timestamps. I don't even know any clients that inject into lunar client that have misplace

and literally the biggest combo he got in the video was a 3 hit combo. You can also hear his butterfly so why the hell would he be using blatant reach without autoclicking? whats the point in that? Honestly this is good for kuqn because he spends way too much time on mana but it just doesn't make sense for someone like that who has never been accused of hacks and never been banned on prac to start using 5.5 reach with misplace on the first day of the reset and not even autoclick while doing it.

 

[Rektah]

and literally the biggest combo he got in the video was a 3 hit combo. You can also hear his butterfly so why the hell would he be using blatant reach without autoclicking? whats the point in that? Honestly this is good for kuqn because he spends way too much time on mana but it just doesn't make sense for someone like that who has never been accused of hacks and never been banned on prac to start using 5.5 reach with misplace on the first day of the reset and not even autoclick while doing it.

Look I know you are confident in your anti-cheat, and I am too. We've seen lots of bans today and its a big upgrade from last seasons anti-cheat. But please consider that it could be a misunderstanding and look into it. This server is that kids life which is really unhealthy but still lol

 

[Cibr]

we can explain it if you give us timestamps. I don't even know any clients that inject into lunar client that have misplace

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[Cibr]

Look I know you are confident in your anti-cheat, and I am too. We've seen lots of bans today and its a big upgrade from last seasons anti-cheat. But please consider that it could be a misunderstanding and look into it. This server is that kids life which is really unhealthy but still lol

Fax

 

[Rektah]

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drip doesn't inject into lunar https://prnt.sc/11rltdu
literally says on their website
and idrk about vape lite but fair enough

 

[Cibr]

drip doesn't inject into lunar https://prnt.sc/11rltdu
literally says on their website
and idrk about vape lite but fair enough

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