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Racism should never be given a lenient punishment. Nothing in your post Purpz justifies why racism and hate speech is such a minor thing here
A server that considers hate speech a major offense would have never started the punishment path at 3h. 95% of other major server networks start off the punishments with MULTIPLE days worth of mutes, or even bans in targeted cases.
Increase the punishment.
A server that considers hate speech a major offense would have never started the punishment path at 3h. 95% of other major server networks start off the punishments with MULTIPLE days worth of mutes, or even bans in targeted cases.
Increase the punishment.
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That kind of system works really well too. You either need a chat filter that's fully capable of deleting those messages before players see it or a harsher punishment to prevent people from doing stuff like hate speech. They're trolls, only way to trolls is to either prevent people from seeing their messages or make the punishment for hate speech so much harsher they feel its a waste of time.
I mean literally, people can come on and flood the chat with N bombs and 3 hours later, they can chat again like they haven't done anything.
I mean literally, people can come on and flood the chat with N bombs and 3 hours later, they can chat again like they haven't done anything.
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But do they? Is this an actual problem we need to solve? I looked through the data and only 16 mutes indicated they were for spamming hate speech. Only one of those was a repeat offender. The remainder stopped after the first mute.
As far as what other servers do for punishments, I personally do not care. Many networks consider themselves family friendly - we have never marketed ourselves as a children's server and many adults play (and staff) here
But do they? Is this an actual problem we need to solve? I looked through the data and only 16 mutes indicated they were for spamming hate speech. Only one of those was a repeat offender. The remainder stopped after the first mute.
- I have probably been messaged twice in my 7 years as srmod/admin about someone being muted and then returning and spamming more hate speech.
- If this does happen staff can tag srmods/admins for permission to give a harsher punishment.
- If this were a recurring or significant issue staff would make a suggestion to adjust the punishment path. They would provide examples to demonstrate the issue and we would address it. That is typically how changes to the rules and punishment paths occur.
As far as what other servers do for punishments, I personally do not care. Many networks consider themselves family friendly - we have never marketed ourselves as a children's server and many adults play (and staff) here
Hopefully you will make changes to the punishment length and make it something considered major, not minor at some point in the future.
I'm sorry, nothing you say can convince me that hateful speech towards groups or entities is only worth a 3h mute, I stand by that. I'm not arguing the system you're defending, I'm arguing a initial base punishment that's clearly way too low (as most players agree) for a singular rule that can easily be adjusted if enough support warrants it.
I see any further discussion to this is likely pointless. Suppose we'll bring it up in the future, again.
I'm sorry, nothing you say can convince me that hateful speech towards groups or entities is only worth a 3h mute, I stand by that. I'm not arguing the system you're defending, I'm arguing a initial base punishment that's clearly way too low (as most players agree) for a singular rule that can easily be adjusted if enough support warrants it.
I see any further discussion to this is likely pointless. Suppose we'll bring it up in the future, again.
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tbh what people miss the most is that staff are people too, they have experienced quite a lot of people im sure they havent wanted to. its different than when you're working a job face to face with a person because its online so people dont necessarily have a filter at all. Theres no point in trying to fight against it if staff dont think there needs to be a change. Another big difference between dealing with people irl compared to on a minecraft server, they have the ability to check the data of players, as choc said above most players dont come back to spam hate speech again, if more people were repeat offenders then im 100% certain that they will implement longer punishments but the whole point of having the mute is to make them have a cooldown basically because if they're stopped they dont feel its worth it to keep at it. staff are people too!!
A simple disagree would do. If you’re not adding to the discussion, we don’t need to know you’re every thought
As far as me ‘defending’ the system goes, I’m just trying to speak with facts. If staff show me the system is not working we‘ll address the issues. Until then there is no possible way to make everyone happy This tends to be more of an emotional issue based on judgement.
I don’t have any objections to making needed changes. But changing a working system to satisfy a small but vocal group doesn’t make sense to me.
If it ain’t broke don’t fix it.
As far as me ‘defending’ the system goes, I’m just trying to speak with facts. If staff show me the system is not working we‘ll address the issues. Until then there is no possible way to make everyone happy This tends to be more of an emotional issue based on judgement.
I don’t have any objections to making needed changes. But changing a working system to satisfy a small but vocal group doesn’t make sense to me.
If it ain’t broke don’t fix it.
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it literally isn't broken at all. Staff are all aware hate speech is bad which is why it is considered a major offense. It will never become a malicious offense as it doesn't harm anyones safety. She said above aswell that there is a data showing that 85% of players with hate speech mutes stopped after the first offense. If more players continued after their first mute, then it would be considered a broken system and the staff would need to fix it. Punishments serve as a way to show players that their actions will not be tolerated and to put them on a cooldown, if they want to continue, the punishments just get more severe. I don't appreciate hate speech either but what difference will it make by making it a longer punishment if the current punishment already gets 85% of players to stop.