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The thing is that the concept itself has such a wide range, and scaling it down to just saying its "greek temple" is not true as seen with my photos.
And also this is the insane-ranked map you're referring to and to be honest, not only is my map COMPLETELY different, if having greek architecture and columns count as "non-original" a lot of other maps wouldn't be on the menu right now lol. I've seen like 5 different egyptian themed maps here. Not even counting the amount of times i've seen "tower" themed maps.
And also this is the insane-ranked map you're referring to and to be honest, not only is my map COMPLETELY different, if having greek architecture and columns count as "non-original" a lot of other maps wouldn't be on the menu right now lol. I've seen like 5 different egyptian themed maps here. Not even counting the amount of times i've seen "tower" themed maps.
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Agreed, however, what you are forgetting is those maps are like circa season 1... this season and more recently in this season they cracked down on individuality in maps... one of the comm judges doob told me literally today if you make a map about the pokemons toedscool it wouldn't be accepted because there's already a tentacool, ya its a diff pokemon but its really just a dupe. thats the kind of vibe I'd say this map has but good luck man.
I actually played ur map and i gotta say
1. repetitive asf
2. u need to like point out where to go... the first jump for instance
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I actually played ur map and i gotta say
1. repetitive asf
2. u need to like point out where to go... the first jump for instance
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Me and tony999J909CP8J put up like 6-7 arrows, and there is more than like 5 signs on the map explaining where to go. I also added lime carpets to show you the way. I don't know how much else i can point it out lol
as the wise doobmcdooberson the twenty-secondteenth once said "aint nobody gonna ever read a sign" (or smthg like that)...
Where do I go from here? We are facing straight but we actually aren't supposed to go straight... but once again u have a sign that no one will read...
again im facing straight but where do i go? you put the cp over here, but I'm not supposed to go straight
side note: anvils are the WORST blocks to ever use. so laggy + they said don't ever use if you can use literally any other block.
you said slime, but which and where? you could uncover the blue carpet...
Where do I go from here? We are facing straight but we actually aren't supposed to go straight... but once again u have a sign that no one will read...
again im facing straight but where do i go? you put the cp over here, but I'm not supposed to go straight
side note: anvils are the WORST blocks to ever use. so laggy + they said don't ever use if you can use literally any other block.
you said slime, but which and where? you could uncover the blue carpet...
There is LITERALLY a sign showing an arrow in front of you, telling you to go around the roof. You've literally done several ladder jumps before that.
There is a sign literally right of you, but for some reason you conveniently don't show it. Explaining in detail you need to use the blue carpet block and jump over to the lime carpet.
Just changed the anvil to something else
No there is no need to uncover the blue carpet because one block away from the picture IS LITERALLY a sign telling you there is slime underneath the blue carpet and that i should use it to jump over to the anvil.
There ya go. On top of this there is many lime carpets around the map + arrow head pointing you in the direction.
Not showing any signs or arrow heads where to go, someone could easily try to go left here and lose time just because you were lazy to put a single sign.
Maybe this one is a glitch or on me, idk but for some reason this part of your map is extremely dark. I barely saw anything lol
Again, it wouldn't hurt to put more signs showing you there is a ladder on there. Someone could easily try to go around it as as shown here, you haven't even tried to use barriers in ther
Here is you forgetting to break a world edit block lol. Pay attention and dont forget these things please.
No signs or arrows pointing anywhere. Kinda all over the pleace.
So yeah your map is built very nicely, but it isn't anything over the top. Repetitive jumps are present and some of your checkpoints need to be in a better spot.
There ya go, see how easy it is to spin a story around like you've done to my map? How about we shut up with this and let the mods decide on my map, okay? If they rejects that is totally fine, i've done some search and yeah they can be a little strict. But you really gotta stop with these replies bro, you're not a mod
There is a sign literally right of you, but for some reason you conveniently don't show it. Explaining in detail you need to use the blue carpet block and jump over to the lime carpet.
Just changed the anvil to something else
No there is no need to uncover the blue carpet because one block away from the picture IS LITERALLY a sign telling you there is slime underneath the blue carpet and that i should use it to jump over to the anvil.
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There ya go. On top of this there is many lime carpets around the map + arrow head pointing you in the direction.
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Not showing any signs or arrow heads where to go, someone could easily try to go left here and lose time just because you were lazy to put a single sign.
Again, it wouldn't hurt to put more signs showing you there is a ladder on there. Someone could easily try to go around it as as shown here, you haven't even tried to use barriers in ther
No signs or arrows pointing anywhere. Kinda all over the pleace.
So yeah your map is built very nicely, but it isn't anything over the top. Repetitive jumps are present and some of your checkpoints need to be in a better spot.
There ya go, see how easy it is to spin a story around like you've done to my map? How about we shut up with this and let the mods decide on my map, okay? If they rejects that is totally fine, i've done some search and yeah they can be a little strict. But you really gotta stop with these replies bro, you're not a mod
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uh I won't say who is wrong and who is right but I see Aeris16 is giving u some idea to help u Improve your map . He just wanna to help u like me . Aeris16 want to tell u ur parkour part when player climb up . Player need to turn around their screen to next parkour part . I think u can make ur parkour part more smooth .
Some opinions is good. Don't need to quarrel. We play game is for fun. That why I keep playing Minecraft just for fun.
Some opinions is good. Don't need to quarrel. We play game is for fun. That why I keep playing Minecraft just for fun.
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Here's an actual review (please note I AM NOT A MAP JUDGE)
overall I will be giving this map a -1.
The theme:
unoriginal, we have some greek maps already and Zeus is one of them.
The build:
The build isn't the greatest, you have access to 1.12 blocks with world edit, I suggest to use them. It also just feels messy and "incomplete".
The parkour isn't great. it's mostly stairs, and not really enjoyable at all.Try using more variation of blocks. There are tones of unmarked barriers (an example is provided in the screenshot below)
These Jumps in the next images are too hard for a medium
the section in the ss below could be redone, it's also just too hard.
boring chain
not allowed (panes)
overall I will be giving this map a -1.
The theme:
unoriginal, we have some greek maps already and Zeus is one of them.
The build:
The build isn't the greatest, you have access to 1.12 blocks with world edit, I suggest to use them. It also just feels messy and "incomplete".
The parkour isn't great. it's mostly stairs, and not really enjoyable at all.Try using more variation of blocks. There are tones of unmarked barriers (an example is provided in the screenshot below)
These Jumps in the next images are too hard for a medium
the section in the ss below could be redone, it's also just too hard.
boring chain
not allowed (panes)
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im not gonna comment on the other discussions in this thread but i AM gonna clear up the philosophy on why i say this:
i mainly tell people to not rely on signs for direction and to go for more visual indicators like glass or arrows for the reason that through experience, players just... don't tend to read signs. Which i understand is VERY frustrating to deal with as a map maker but it's just one of those culture things you need to play around (like alot of people not being very receptive to complicated mechanics like puzzles).
You can of course still HAVE signs but I usually always like them in maps as a secondary indication compared to being able to see your next jump or see an arrow or carpet as the primary indication.
You can read more about the philosophy of this here https://manacube.com/threads/basics-show-dont-tell-how-to-path-good-signage-and-directions.78219/
i mainly tell people to not rely on signs for direction and to go for more visual indicators like glass or arrows for the reason that through experience, players just... don't tend to read signs. Which i understand is VERY frustrating to deal with as a map maker but it's just one of those culture things you need to play around (like alot of people not being very receptive to complicated mechanics like puzzles).
You can of course still HAVE signs but I usually always like them in maps as a secondary indication compared to being able to see your next jump or see an arrow or carpet as the primary indication.
You can read more about the philosophy of this here https://manacube.com/threads/basics-show-dont-tell-how-to-path-good-signage-and-directions.78219/
Let me chip in on this, I'm bored
There isn't anything wrong with directional signs, the issue is when it comes to parts that flow and people just mindlesly pass through (mostly easies and meds maps). In theses cases, it should be clear where to go next, let that be with good pathing or with big arrows, because the text is too hard to read while going fast and not stopping on every jump
This isn't an issue in insanes maps, as (at the end of chains), you'll probably slow down to either do a set up, or figure out what jump you need to do, and so you have more time to read directional signs
There isn't anything wrong with directional signs, the issue is when it comes to parts that flow and people just mindlesly pass through (mostly easies and meds maps). In theses cases, it should be clear where to go next, let that be with good pathing or with big arrows, because the text is too hard to read while going fast and not stopping on every jump
This isn't an issue in insanes maps, as (at the end of chains), you'll probably slow down to either do a set up, or figure out what jump you need to do, and so you have more time to read directional signs
Cuz u feel like doing this... this map got rejected as it was and I'm not surprised, but let's go through this for a second.
1. The first one like wtf you follow the path, if you wanna explore be my guest, the map judges had no problem with that.
2. most ppl play w fullbright myself included so womp womp
3. idk tf ur image is pointing at... signs are—like doob said—the worst thing to use for primary indication. Whenever there was a hidden ladder I used glass on that map, which is a MUCH preferred form of primary indication.
4. how do you think the maps get moved to in-game? You think they do /summon india_gate. no they actually have to individually copy and paste the builds, so the we being there isn't sloppy, its actually simplifying their work
5. u took a picture of an arrow... that thing in front of the sapling is an arrow... you really f'ed urself there...
also I'm just trying to help this is literally your FIRST map. India Gate is not my first map. It got rejected, but I have 4 maps. That doesn't make me a pro, it just makes me semi-knowledgable on easy shit that gets rejected. Also for a medium, there were no neos...
also if u want to talk abt this map dm me and ill tell you waht i did wrong cuz I know
1. The first one like wtf you follow the path, if you wanna explore be my guest, the map judges had no problem with that.
2. most ppl play w fullbright myself included so womp womp
3. idk tf ur image is pointing at... signs are—like doob said—the worst thing to use for primary indication. Whenever there was a hidden ladder I used glass on that map, which is a MUCH preferred form of primary indication.
4. how do you think the maps get moved to in-game? You think they do /summon india_gate. no they actually have to individually copy and paste the builds, so the we being there isn't sloppy, its actually simplifying their work
5. u took a picture of an arrow... that thing in front of the sapling is an arrow... you really f'ed urself there...
also I'm just trying to help this is literally your FIRST map. India Gate is not my first map. It got rejected, but I have 4 maps. That doesn't make me a pro, it just makes me semi-knowledgable on easy shit that gets rejected. Also for a medium, there were no neos...
also if u want to talk abt this map dm me and ill tell you waht i did wrong cuz I know
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Cuz u feel like doing this... this map got rejected as it was and I'm not surprised, but let's go through this for a second.
1. The first one like wtf you follow the path, if you wanna explore be my guest, the map judges had no problem with that.
2. most ppl play w fullbright myself included so womp womp
3. idk tf ur image is pointing at... signs are—like doob said—the worst thing to use for primary indication. Whenever there was a hidden ladder I used glass on that map, which is a MUCH preferred form of primary indication.
4. how do you think the maps get moved to in-game? You think they do /summon india_gate. no they actually have to individually copy and paste the builds, so the we being there isn't sloppy, its actually simplifying their work
5. u took a picture of an arrow... that thing in front of the sapling is an arrow... you really f'ed urself there...
also I'm just trying to help this is literally your FIRST map. India Gate is not my first map. It got rejected, but I have 4 maps. That doesn't make me a pro, it just makes me semi-knowledgable on easy shit that gets rejected. Also for a medium, there were no neos...
also if u want to talk abt this map dm me and ill tell you waht i did wrong cuz I know
1. The first one like wtf you follow the path, if you wanna explore be my guest, the map judges had no problem with that.
2. most ppl play w fullbright myself included so womp womp
3. idk tf ur image is pointing at... signs are—like doob said—the worst thing to use for primary indication. Whenever there was a hidden ladder I used glass on that map, which is a MUCH preferred form of primary indication.
4. how do you think the maps get moved to in-game? You think they do /summon india_gate. no they actually have to individually copy and paste the builds, so the we being there isn't sloppy, its actually simplifying their work
5. u took a picture of an arrow... that thing in front of the sapling is an arrow... you really f'ed urself there...
also I'm just trying to help this is literally your FIRST map. India Gate is not my first map. It got rejected, but I have 4 maps. That doesn't make me a pro, it just makes me semi-knowledgable on easy shit that gets rejected. Also for a medium, there were no neos...
also if u want to talk abt this map dm me and ill tell you waht i did wrong cuz I know
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