News Post Parkour Server Update: 1.8 vs 1.20 [POLL]

[Dacon]

Hey everyone

This is a crucial poll regarding our beloved Parkour server. The team has been discussing the next parkour update, and if we should pursue updating to 1.20, or remain on 1.8. The update is still many months out, but we need to poll this now

Below are some key differences that would affect Parkour:

1.20 Pros

• More Freedom & Creativity: 10+ years of minecraft content would become available (blocks, items, mechanics, resourcepack etc.)
• Better Cosmetics/Crates (= more funding = more updates)
• New types of Parkour (New jump mechanics, elytras, etc.)
• Latest Version would no longer be buggy on many of the maps due to hitbox sizes
• Global Updates: Parkour can be included in global modern version updates like Festivals
• New Player Friendly: Lets face it, most new players aren't going to switch to 1.8

However there is a significant hurdle that comes with upgrading to 1.20

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1.20 Cons

• Broken Maps: Hundreds of maps would be broken due to 1.8 vs 1.20 differences in block hitboxes.
  These would all be fixed before releasing, but would likely take many months. This is why we are polling this super early so that we have plenty of time.
• 1.8 Discontinued: We wouldn't support 1.8 anymore, which is the preferred client version for many parkour players

So we are at a crossroad. We can play it safe and remain on 1.8 (we still have many new features planned), or take on the challenge of updating to 1.20, embracing it's new features and opportunities. This poll is to gather the communities opinion and feedback. If you are a Parkour player, please submit your vote and discuss your thoughts in this thread! We will consider all feedback in our final decision.

 

[Dora]

 

[Shinxray]

Big con for players : more puzzle maps from me

Editing this message since it's my first post here : I will try responding to most opinions so we can discuss about everything needed about the update

 

[Acrellux]

PLEASE stay on 1.8.

 

[AlfieJay]

What about splitting the diff and adding a new 1.20 parkour realm? Do what you did with cubes on Surv but one be 1.8.9, the other can update? Best of both worlds IMO

(but, if it's one or the other, 1.8.9 PLEASE. So much nicer pk)

 

[Shinxray]

PLEASE stay on 1.8.

Might need to explain why you wanna stay in 1.8, or there is just no discussion lol

What about splitting the diff and adding a new 1.20 parkour realm? Do what you did with cubes on Surv but one be 1.8.9, the other can update? Best of both worlds IMO

(but, if it's one or the other, 1.8.9 PLEASE. So much nicer pk)

Imo it's too complicated, doing this is basically splitting the community with elitist (who will stay in 1.8) and actually new player, and the 1.8 server will be quite abandoned at some point since no new stuff will be possible (which is a bit what is happening right now)

 

[Masgerade]

Lets not go switch off 1.8.9 after the blips finally got fixed afters months to years. Most insanes would need revamping, of which most mapmakers dont play anymore. This would cause more effort than reward imo, unless we pump out 10 insanes a month with the new innovative parkour.

 

[Tigs]

Personally I wouldn't mind the change, would save having to swap versions all the time. That's a lot of work to fix the higher difficulty maps though.

 

[KoalaIs]

Can the poll be weighted by hours played lol

 

[caseyclosed]

Lets not go switch off 1.8.9 after the blips finally got fixed afters months to years. Most insanes would need revamping, of which most mapmakers dont play anymore. This would cause more effort than reward imo, unless we pump out 10 insanes a month with the new innovative parkour.

a lot more than that breaks but its way worth it cause 1.8 is dead and buried

 

[Shinxray]

Lets not go switch off 1.8.9 after the blips finally got fixed afters months to years. Most insanes would need revamping, of which most mapmakers dont play anymore. This would cause more effort than reward imo, unless we pump out 10 insanes a month with the new innovative parkour.

Blips are not really fully fixed tbf, and there is many other jumps that are laggy because of different hitbox, which will be fixed if we update.
And yeah we will lose blips, but we will get 150+ new stuff instead.
Yeah we will need to revamp the insanes (and to be fair half of the maps), but most of the effort will be from me and Hayley, so if the poll is here, it's because we are ready to do this effort (it will be a pain but well lol)

 

[Shinxray]

Can the poll be weighted by hours played lol

Without saying it's impossible, I don't think it will change a lot lol (spoiler : I voted 1.20 and I have 4000+ hours, only players like casey or dooble outweigh me lOl, and that's assuming they not vote for 1.20)

 

[CreeperSlayer]

Either do it or dont but the player count won't change. Literally comes down to destroying most of the good maps on the server vs being able to make cool new maps, but there aren't enough players to make enough new ones. An update isn't going to bring old players back - they don't play on 1.19 servers currently so what difference would this make to them

Post automatically merged: May 23, 2023

aka u wasting your time even thinking about it

 

[Jxson]

1.20 is the way to go. 1.8 is simply outdated, and while the logistics of parkour in 1.8 are better, there’s no more room for growth.
My suggestion moving forward - open applications to create a “Parkour team” to assess and go through every map and create a list of maps which can be archived going into 1.20, meaning don’t bother updating the parkour just create a separate warp to “play old maps” . There’s 1800+ maps and so many of them are so bad that they should just be archived and not contribute to ranking up. It would open a lot more space for growth and newer things going into 1.20

 

[CreeperSlayer]

Additionally the newer versions' performance is straight aids. Fine if you're fannying around on kiddy games like survival or skyblock, but when you're halfway through a gauntlet like orangevsblue, you really don't want to drop frames. Life or death

 

[BluePottwal]

In my opinion parkour does not belong to 1.9+.
Some people may argue that 1.12 is still okay, but having parkour for 3 years now with about 5000 hours of playtime over all servers i can say, that 1.8.9 has the best feeling for parkour.

There are 4 main types of parkour:

1. Segmented: Maps with checkpoints
2. Speedrun: timed maps
3. Rankup: Longer, easier maps without checkpoints
4. OneJump: Hard single Jumps

While Manacube provides possibility to play the points 1 and 2, points 3 and 4 are not present. I know many people might disagree with me on this one, but I think it would be a good addition to add either rankup or onejump to make the playexperience more varied. These maps could be on "manacube level". As you might know, Manacube is a very beginner friendly parkour server. I think it would give new players another way of getting into the parkour world. Another idea would be to add hidden tags on big maps. You could either get a tag if you complete a very hard map, or if you find a hidden Tag (usually a sign to click). Anyways, after 5k hours over all parkourservers and 4.2k hours on manacube i have the opinion that parkour should remain 1.8.9. Another aspect of parkour is that in some later version the facings got removed. This, to me, always was a skill, that new players needed to learn before they got more into parkour. Maybe for the casual player 1.20 might be better, but for the people that actually mastered parkour over the years, 1.20 would be like learning a completely new game.

 

[melkemokka]

As a 1.19 player i support 1.20 (although i have only ~150 hours so im not the best intel on this)

 

[NOAHISRETARDED]

1.20 seems very good for the server. Also i love blurplyfield

 

[BluePottwal]

Without saying it's impossible, I don't think it will change a lot lol (spoiler : I voted 1.20 and I have 4000+ hours, only players like casey or dooble outweigh me lOl, and that's assuming they not vote for 1.20)

We can weight this poll by parkour skill

 

[Masgerade]

In my opinion parkour does not belong to 1.9+.
Some people may argue that 1.12 is still okay, but having parkour for 3 years now with about 5000 hours of playtime over all servers i can say, that 1.8.9 has the best feeling for parkour.

There are 4 main types of parkour:

1. Segmented: Maps with checkpoints
2. Speedrun: timed maps
3. Rankup: Longer, easier maps without checkpoints
4. OneJump: Hard single Jumps

While Manacube provides possibility to play the points 1 and 2, points 3 and 4 are not present. I know many people might disagree with me on this one, but I think it would be a good addition to add either rankup or onejump to make the playexperience more varied. These maps could be on "manacube level". As you might know, Manacube is a very beginner friendly parkour server. I think it would give new players another way of getting into the parkour world. Another idea would be to add hidden tags on big maps. You could either get a tag if you complete a very hard map, or if you find a hidden Tag (usually a sign to click). Anyways, after 5k hours over all parkourservers and 4.2k hours on manacube i have the opinion that parkour should remain 1.8.9. Another aspect of parkour is that in some later version the facings got removed. This, to me, always was a skill, that new players needed to learn before they got more into parkour. Maybe for the casual player 1.20 might be better, but for the people that actually mastered parkour over the years, 1.20 would be like learning a completely new game.

Couldnt agree more. Wise words.